Thank you for your kind invitation to have Frank on your show.
Every once in a while, someone will request to interview Frank on one of his VERY old books.
Usually, it’s the 2008 book Pagan Christianity that Frank wrote with George Barna.
Those who make this request don’t seem to be aware of Frank’s newer books, which are far more powerful and more timely than the very old book with Barna.
Here’s the breakdown:
* Pagan Christianity is NOT a stand alone work. It — and the constructive sequels — were written for a very narrow audience: Christians who left the organized church and began meeting organically under the headship of Christ. It was written to such people to give them biblical and historical permission to gather the way they were gathering.
That audience was large in 2008; today it’s quite small, especially among people under the age of 45. (It’s not a “house church” audience, but an organic church audience which isn’t the same.)
* Those early books were NOT written to all Christians, but only to that extremely narrow audience. Other audiences (like pastors and people who enjoy Sunday morning services) completely misunderstood his early books on ecclesiology. It’s kind of like giving a book on vegan recipes to a meat eater. Wrong audience.
* For these reasons, Frank no longer does interviews on those old books. He’s moved on to discuss his newer book which are much more relevant and reach a far wider audience in interviews.
He has written over 11 books since Pagan Christianity and they are for ALL Christians in all church settings. You can see the titles in this image.
His newest book, which is being used all over the world, just came out (2025). It uniquely unlocks the New Testament in a powerful way.
The new book has been endorsed by 20 first-rate scholars and Christian leaders are using it all over the world. You can get a sample and freely listen to interviews on it at frankviola.org/uts
Frank is doing interviews on this new book now and nothing else.
We encourage you to get a copy of this groundbreaking book, and if you want Frank on your show after reading through it to discuss the book, just reach out with the link to your podcast on Spotify and Apple podcasts.
Again, please check out the book – which has sample chapters, endorsements, and interviews – at frankviola.org/uts.
We’ll go from there.
Best Regards,
The Deeper Journey Team